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I dunno, that's a good question, who would be,
what would the general populous be more skeptical of,
Bigfoot or aliens?
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[Matt] If I ever get abducted by aliens,
I'm gonna ask them what's the deal with Bigfoot?
[Man] Careful now, Bigfoot, no question,
but I'm definitely more
tailored to the fascinated by Ufology.
[Alan] There is something that those people are drawn to.
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I love exploring that plane,
its color,
its
joy
its mystery and living in that mystery.
[Jeffrey] I really think that it's okay
that people go out in search for these things
and wanna know more about life beyond where we are.
[Alan] There's something there.
I really think people who go in search of Bigfoot
and I think people who go in search of aliens
I think they're very similar and here's why.
A lot of people who studied
and there are people who take just simply
a scholarly academic approach to the study of the unknown,
and that's what science is all about.
If you have a question that you don't know the answer to,
you have a hypothesis,
you test that hypothesis with evidence
and if your hypothesis proves to be untrue,
you come back and you re-hypothesis.
It was "Harry and the Hendersons"
the movie "Harry and the Hendersons"
that really sparked my interest in Bigfoot
and similarly to "E.T."
which sparked my interest in extra terrestrials, right,
there was this infusion of love,
of tenderness, of kindness in both of those films
and so, from the earliest age my interest
in anything paranormal, extra terrestrial in origin
was grounded in this idea that
perhaps there are species out there
yet undiscovered or proven to exist in the mainstream
that
are not caged and restricted
by the same kind of shortcomings that human beings have.
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The biggest difference between cryptozoology and Ufology
whether it's doing research,
speaking at conferences, lectures, TV shows,
things like that,
the biggest difference is that a lot of UFO research
is sort of historical going through files,
speaking with witnesses.
Cryptozoology, because it's the study of unknown animals,
there's a great deal of research done out in the field
in forests, in woods, in lakes, mountains,
So, cryptozoology lends it more to
expeditions and being on the road
whereas Ufology is scrutinizing cases
and documents and files.
So, one is very much outdoors, another one is
pouring over material, that kind of thing.
So, there's definitely a little bit of a difference
I think, between the UFO and Bigfoot community.
Bigfoot community tends to be a little more grounded,
a lot of these guys,
there's just guys only about in the woods,
they're pretty down to earth
and they know the animals, they know their species,
you know, they just either I've had when
I've seen something unusual they can't explain, you know,
they don't think of it in terms of
I think so much in terms of like anthropology or biology,
a lot of these guys 'cause these guys,
some of these guys are hunters or they're just
guys that live out in the woods
and they're pretty regular people.
It doesn't attract as many crazy people to
or let's say delusional, to be honest, you know,
as the UFO field does and it's not as,
there's less politics.
I think especially today,
the UFO field is very politically motivated,
you know, everything,
it's been hijacked a little bit by
some group of people that
where the UFOs are coming second behind
the worship of certain politicians or,
you know, it gets tied up with like a QAnon phenomena
which I personally think is utterly ridiculous.
So, there's a lot more conspiracy theories out there
that I think are kind of going off the deep end
and then attracts a lot of those guys.
Yeah, it's interesting 'cause
there is not much cultural crossover between the alien fans,
the ancient alien fans,
the conspiracy theorists about governments and
stuff like that,
the Bigfoot people, the ghost people
and there really should because
basically we're all the same in the sense,
if you put us all together,
you'd have a really, really massive block
of voters and political activists because
we're all people that recognize in one way or another
that the world that we're presented on TV is not reality,
that there is a much deeper, maybe darker,
but certainly more interesting reality that we exist in
than what we're sold every day.
There's a lot more things going on than just
who's gonna win the Super Bowl?
The Chiefs by the way.
You know, there's more stuff going on than that
and the, you know,
the impeachment farce that's going on right now,
it's all for show and it's all to keep us distracted
from the ghosts and the Bigfoots
and the things that don't fit
and the aliens and the ancient aliens,
just to keep us from really focusing on the truth
because if we did focus on that, we might get distracted
and not really think it was that important
to go to work tomorrow
and that's what keeps the engine of civilization running.
We had a fascinating conversation with Mike Bara
on the way up the mountain.
He was tired, this is before this whole
virus thing came out and he started,
he was saying that, yeah, I got an insider CIA guy that
has said that we have a virus
that targets certain ethnic groups
and the whole, everybody in the truck we're just like,
what are you talking about?
And it's right as the whole thing was gonna breaking free
but it doesn't look like that was the,
it just started in China or whatever, but it was,
that's, you know, you get all kinds of insider info
from these guys and then
when they say they got a contact,
it's hard not to, you know.
I really think that it's okay
that people go out in search for these things
and wanna know more about space
and wanna know more about life beyond where we are.
We have predilections to violence,
to disorder,
vengeance, anger, hatred, all these things and
when I saw those movies when I was a child,
I thought, what if there really is a species out there that
was kind and compassionate and they
were not a species of of war or conflict?
There are scientific species, right?
Like "E.T." the extra terrestrial
or "Harry and the Hendersons"
that maybe all these setting's a Bigfoot which
keep their distance for the most part,
Sasquatch or Yeti.
That they're intelligent enough to stay away from us
because maybe
they don't wanna get involved with our conflicts
and they can see how aggressive we can be,
not that we always are,
but we have people out there that are actually
with guns hunting for Bigfoot
which I just think is absolutely absurd
and I highly, highly condemn it.
It really just ticks me off that people would do that
because there's just not enough good evidence
that I've seen, that Bigfoot or Sasquatch is
aggressive and violent towards human beings.
They may be at times confrontational
in that they approach and come close to us, to eyewitnesses,
but that does not justify
looking for a trophy just to prove that some species exists,
because again, for me,
it's something more meta, it's bigger.
The search for strange creatures or
extraterrestrials visiting here,
whatever you're searching for, for me it all means
something much bigger than ourselves.
For me, that's one of the main reasons why
I kind of, like cryptozoology in many ways more than Ufology
because I enjoy the sort of
road trip expedition aspect of it,
hitting the road and potentially, you know,
staking out to the Lake
where something has been seen for seven days.
You know, for me, that's more exciting than just
pouring over something
that's been released on the Freedom of Information Act
from 50 years ago, which is really still cool material
but I kind of liked that sort of
pitching the road angle more than anything else, yeah.
Personally, I think both
UFO's and Bigfoot are equally believable
but for different reasons.
I think because the UFO phenomena, we have so much
evidence now, I don't wanna say proof
'cause we don't have the smoking gun, you know,
but obviously recently we've seen
various governments including ours
have admitted to the fact that there are
flying objects out there they can't explain.
We have a paper trail, you know, that for example,
John Greenwald at the black vault
has been able to dig up
that talk about UFO's from official capacity
in the US government.
Other governments around the world
have admitted to the fact that yeah, these things fly around
we have a plethora of footage at this point,
I mean, granted, a lot of it's fake,
but the plethora of good footage, pictures,
accounts, you know, throughout the entire world
so, there's a lot there, you know,
with Bigfoot, we have much less, I think and,
but on the other hand,
10 years ago I would say
UFO's are more believable than Bigfoot
but since we've, all that we know now about
the fossil record and
much for the backroom back through genetics
have proven that something like Bigfoot
not only could exist, but did exist, you know
a bunch of times the last few million years.
So, if it was possible then,
certainly there's no reason for it not to be possible now,
the only question is
whether it could stay hidden in the modern world.
Definitely, I mean, Bigfoot, no question, it's out there,
but I'm definitely more
tailored to be fascinated by
Ufology and
the technology and.
I have no problem whatsoever with a person
who wants to know or go out and investigate whether or not
there's life beyond our solar system?
I don't know how you do that.
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I have through my involvement with
UFO research for the government and
now I suppose, as
somebody who writes and broadcasts on this,
I interact with the UFO community.
I have a good knowledge, I suppose, of
Ufology for want of a better word,
I know that there are other mysteries,
other fields of study,
so, we have, for example,
all sorts of anomalous creatures seen all around the world
monsters and
I suppose most famously Bigfoot, say,
and you have the whole cryptozoological community.
I suspect there are
similarities and differences between those communities.
Well, I've been interested in,
yeah, I guess a lot of different things,
but to see the intertwining
of the Ufology.
Ufology, we have that subject
but when you start going down that road
and you start opening that box,
it's literally Pandora's box
because you will discover as I have,
what is reality?
What are we doing here?
Why, what is a human being?
What is the purpose of our existence?
You know, all of these big, big questions
you ask and you go deeper and you go deeper
and you may find some answers, you may find it, you know,
and it's very individualized, but it's all interconnected.
So, ghosts, you know, you mentioned Bigfoot earlier
you know, the indigenous teachings, cultures,
but other religious belief systems,
it's all connected and it's all intertwined to
the bigger, greater story of what is it to be human.
So, I think the positive and negative
are two sides of the same coin from both
cryptozoology and Ufology.
So, again, the seeking, I think, is
a sort of mystical quest.
So, ghost hunters, cryptozoologists, Ufologists,
whatever it is,
they are seeking something that is bigger
than what conventional
thinking tells us our reality is
beyond our five senses and science has teased us, right,
that the world is so much bigger.
The universe is so much more magical and diverse than
we may have imagined,
but it seems to me that our imagination often drives
the search for answers.
We have to sort of imagine what could be
before we can even seek it,
and so, the idea that we can imagine
that there might be these elementals
or spirits or ghosts or Chupacabras or Bigfoot
that there might be extra terrestrials
visiting our earth from another planet,
that fills us with
a wonder that I think just sort of
feeds the spirit of living, that it makes life exciting and
in the search for that,
I think there is something almost spiritual about it
and I think that is a very positive thing.
Now, some people might,
like they use other things to fill the void
but I think most people,
it's not a void that they're filling,
it's just living the journey of life and, you know,
going down the enigmatic road of investigation
into the unknown is something that
broadens the mind.
In some sense, both communities would regard themselves
as somewhat fringe and are regarded as somewhat fringe
and maybe eccentric by, for example,
the mainstream scientific community.
A lot of these people might regard themselves as
outsiders, crusaders for the truth in a
situation where maybe they feel the
deck is stacked against them,
maybe from government, media, scientific community,
whoever it might be.
The negative is that, yes,
sometimes people can get obsessed
and any kind of obsession is,
you know, damaging
and unfortunately, I think sometimes there are
researchers or individuals
who need more out of life than
what interest in Ufology or cryptozoology can provide
and maybe they begin to
fill their investigations with hyperbole
so that they can get more attention.
Maybe they start to take an experience and
embellish it too far, too much
and it's attention that they need, it does happen.
So, there is that negative side to it
and sometimes, yeah, just like a religion or
a philosophy of any kind,
they might be using that to fill some kind of void
in their soul and their heart and their psyche.
I'm sure there are some differences
between the communities but there are some commonalities
too
and I think that's very interesting.
It's whatever you believe about UFOs, about Bigfoot,
I think actually, it would be quite interesting almost
sociologically, to look at those communities.
So, not looking so much at UFOs or Bigfoot
but the people that study them
and research them and maybe try to go out.
I mean, I don't know what the difference is, for example,
between people that go out on a sky watch
with binoculars and infrared equipment, night vision goggles
and say the people that hunt Bigfoot and
I suspect that
one common thread is
extreme dedication and these things aren't easy.
They, you probably get
ridiculed and disbelieved
and you probably spend a lot of cold wet nights
when it might be easier to
drink some beer and watch the game, so,
it's an interesting question
about these different communities
and as I say, I'm sure
there are some things that bind them together
and other things that set them apart.
I think by and large, most people,
especially in the paranormal community,
I love the people in the paranormal community,
you know, it's just part of my tribe
[laughs] as it were
and they're good people
and we are very supportive of each other
and I really appreciate that
and there's a lot of positive thinking.
So, I was into the whole UFO thing
prior to being into Bigfoot.
My introduction was through French comic book on aliens
but inside they had like a story from Brazil
about little hairy monsters, they're supposedly aliens.
So, when I saw another book on a Yeti,
I kind of recognized that model, you know,
from the earlier UFO book.
So, that got me interested, it said, Yeti, I'm like,
Oh, it's kind like, you know, this UFO story in Brazil
then obviously that went onto its own path but.
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Even five years ago, a UFO person,
Oh, those Bigfoot people they're stuck up, they don't know.
You know, they're tracking something, you know
we don't really care about them
and then the Bigfoot people would be like,
no, those guys are weird, you know,
I spend my weekends out looking for a big hairy
bipedal ape or something, but those UFO people are weird
and 'cause a lot of Bigfoot researchers
and understandably so, very scientific, very hard facts,
we want footprints, we want photographs,
we want hair samples, we want DNA.
We want sounds, we want actual, tangible evidence
and UFO being a lot of
sightings and encounters and hearsay,
having even less physical evidence than UFO world,
there was always a departure.
When I got invited to speak at UPAs, LA,
which is the LA chapter of MUFON,
UPAs, universal paranormal association
and then MUFON in Orange County, very nice people,
it was really refreshing
'cause I'm so used to talking to people
unless it's a paranormal podcast,
if I just talk to regular people who have an interest in it
you spend the whole conversation about Bigfoot
trying to convince them it exists,
and when you go talk to a group of 30, 40, 50, 60 people
who study different alien races and UFO's and consciousness
and different Astral planes
and metaphysics and all this different kind of stuff,
and I'm like, yeah, my name's Matt, I research Bigfoots,
they're all like,
yeah, and?
There's a big hairy North American creature exists,
they're like, yeah, and?
It's no big deal to them.
I mean, when you're talking about
parallel dimensions and wormholes
and ancient aliens and civilizations and
the real kind of out there stuff they talk about,
to them, an undiscovered species or an ape is just like
a species of human, they're just kinda like,
yeah, what of it?
And they're very interested and very welcoming
and I heard some
weird stories from some of the people who came up
during the intermediate.
Hi, I'm a level three Shaman and I live in the woods here
and I wanna let you know that
Bigfoots are spiritual creatures and I saw one, one day and
I could see it perfectly clear
but my boyfriend couldn't see it and
it spoke to me in a dream later that night
and I'm just like, hi,
and there are other people come up to me and they're like,
yeah, we're actually Satan worshipers
and we worship demons and they're all golfed out
and everything like that and I'm just like,
hi, I'm Matt, smiling politely, you know, and
they're telling me that, oh, yeah, Bigfoot has,
you know, some of the dark one's seed in it
and they're genetically modified and all this and
the great evil one showed me this in a dream and I'm like,
yep, it's nice to meet all you folks, you know,
I mean, give them, listen to these people,
listen to them, hear what they have to say.
Whether you throw it out personally is up to you.
But it's certainly fascinating,
it's certainly entertaining at the very least.
Bigfoot, in my opinion is the Nephilim.
The Nephilim are the by-product, the offspring
of the fallen angelicals and the human women of earth
creating a hybrid known as the Nephilim.
It's biblical it's right in there, Genesis six.
It goes back to the seed of a dragon
will be at war enmity with the seed of the woman,
which sets up for the rest
of the biblical prophetic narrative.
That's not taught in most seminaries,
most Christians have no idea what that even is
but it's there and it's coming into light,
and I'm one of the people,
my mentor, Chuck Missler, and Dr. IDE Thomas,
I stand on their shoulders,
they stand on GH Pember's shoulders,
so, it's been there, people have talked about it
but the mainstream still goes, whoa, whoa, whoa,
that's too whoa for us.
So, again, this is all supernatural in my opinion.
The whole UFO phenomenon, in my opinion,
is a supernatural occurrence, not a
an extra terrestrial one, interdimensional one.
I don't necessarily have to believe everything I hear
and obviously I don't just swallow and believe
whatever evidence is
placed in front of me,
but it's the conversation that I enjoy
because what it says is that
we're not being dogmatic,
we're keeping the door open, we're asking questions
even for the strict, almost dogmatic Ufologists
or Bigfoot researchers who say,
no, Bigfoot is a physical being only
is a ape family descendant living amongst us secretly,
whereas others would say it's an entire dimensional being,
either way,
they're searching for something
and they're keeping that door open a little bit
and I really do appreciate that.
One of the things that I encounter on my YouTube channel
and in my research and shows that I've been on,
is just because I talk about a theory
doesn't necessarily mean
that that's what I think is going on.
It's just, I talk about a Bigfoot UFO connection
or a paranormal connection and Matt thinks
they're paranormal or he thinks that they're
the Nephilim where he thinks there's something biblical
or they think they're, Matt thinks they're an alien,
well, well, I didn't say that,
I feel like any good researcher or teacher
or somebody exploring a subject,
you have to look at these things
without that necessarily being what your opinion is.
So, I gotta put that caveat out there right away.
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I think I'm probably more passionate about Bigfoot
than I am about UFOs because, well, first of all,
I have a BS in anthropology, so, you know,
it's something that
I can justify I'm going to school for five years
in only one sense,
but for whatever reason, that's captured my imagination
a lot more than maybe UFO's.
I mean, I'm passionate about UFO just as well,
but I'm a little disillusioned by the
everything that's went on in the UFO field, you know. and
it's a mess if I'm gonna be quite honest and
a lot of people don't have the best interest
of the field in mind and that's, you know,
that's really frustrating.
Bigfoot's a little bit smaller community
and don't get me wrong,
there's a lot of people I don't personally like, but
it's not as tainted as the UFO field today, I think, and
I think there's a bigger chance
for us to find proof of Bigfoot in the next year
than there is of us, you know,
finally declaring that aliens or whatever,
you know, creates the UFO phenomena is real.
UFO, really, it encompasses a lot of modalities,
it's not, we're not just talking about aliens
we're talking about secret aircraft, maybe,
whatever, right and it becomes,
there's so many factors involved
and if factors in so much into the political world, right?
Because you're talking about a new type of energy
probably, that's very different than what we have today
and that affects everything,
everything in the world, it affects oil,
it affects government.
Imagine the US government admitting tomorrow that
aliens and UFOs are real and had been flying in our airspace
for generations and there's nothing we can do about it.
I mean, even today, which, you know, it's
things a little chaotic with the US government
but even that admittance is like, is unthinkable, right,
how do you admit to something like that?
And I think that's part of the problem
why we're not getting UFO disclosure.
Well, Bigfoot, you know, let's say someone discovers Bigfoot
and now greater creationists will be up at arms you know,
but ultimately everyone's gonna get over it a week later.
Oh, look, we found other species of man that's alive today
that'll be huge, right,
or we found a new type of ape that's bipedal.
So, maybe the ape thing will be popular for a week
and no one will care, you know,
or, obviously, if we find another species of human
that's gonna change things dramatically,
but look at the world today is really, anybody's gonna
be up in arms about it a month later?
Sadly, probably not, you know.
Not and people go back to their phones or.
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I suppose if the, you know, humans are being abducted,
I wouldn't see any reason
they wouldn't abduct a Bigfoot too.
And the fact that in the last few years
you have seen a lot more crossover.
Ron Morehead, a lot of bigger Bigfoot researchers
have given more talks at UFO conferences
and they're starting to show up more
and you're starting to see a lot more crossovers.
I think both communities are kind of realizing
this isn't just some physical creature in a craft,
some species visiting us from another planet,
there's more to it than that.
These stars are too far away
for them to even travel at the speed of light and get here.
There's more to aliens
than just them being little green men from another planet,
and then people look at Bigfoot
and there's more to these creatures
than just being a big hairy human ape hybrid thing
and so, there's a lot of crossover.
Who's to say Bigfoot's not a shape shifter that
[laughs] one second is
you know, a bear like creature
and the next second he's like an old Indian chief
and you know, hey, what's up?
Yeah, who knows, anything's possible?
Coincidentally, that's kind of where my research went
is eventually and a lot of people
encounter this in the Bigfoot world,
is you've read all the conventional stuff,
you've been out in the woods and have, probably,
more than likely very, very limited success on your own
researching Bigfoot in the field,
you spend all day long on camouflaged up
with your cover scent and your face painted,
crawling through the woods, watching every step,
setting up cameras,
you go back to the car
and you stop to take a whiz on a tree
and that's when you hear a tree snap
and you hear a hoop and you're like,
I'm not ready, you know?
Or as soon as your camera dies, you've been filming all day
and you're tired and you're sitting on the porch and
you're gonna have a cocktail,
that's when you hear a tree knock over here
and you hear a tree knock over there
and you hear the woods go quiet and you're a whoop
and you're like,
the camera's inside charging with no SD card in it
and you're like, really, really?
Now, it's when it happens
and you go get the camera and then nothing happens.
That's just the way it happens with all paranormal
and that's when you start getting into the ghost hunters
people that go to the haunted, you know,
the abandoned prison and abandoned
Asylums and the old houses
and try to do their EVP and talk to the ghost and everything
is they have a lot of the same issues.
It's like Zen, the harder you look for it,
the farther away from it you're gonna get
and it's very interesting that
the UFO world, the Bigfoot world
and the paranormal ghost world
all kind of seem to have that.
I dunno,
I was wondering where you, how, what the link was between
Bigfoot and you know, and the UFO culture and
I'm understanding a little bit more now, for sure.
For all of you out there
that love these topics,
thank you.
Thank you for doing what you do because
I think that on the periphery,
even though maybe we're the ones that
are willing to put our faces out front and
publicly discuss these things,
on the periphery, there are people that
are watching and listening.
Maybe they're not posting on their Facebook page, you know
latest article about cryptozoology
but they might see our posts.
Maybe they tune into this radio shows
and they never talk to anyone else about it outside of that,
they don't talk to people at work or family,
just kind of like their own little
you know, mystical world that they created.
The similarities at conferences
where you've got big crowds and you know,
everybody's listening to the lectures and so on,
I mean, that's pretty much the same
whether you're talking about UFO's or if it's cryptozoology,
what I've found is that
the lectures that are done in cryptozoology
are far more visible in terms of pictures and imagery.
You find that
lectures and conferences in relations like Bigfoot
are far more picturesque,
you know, location pictures,
pictures of the witnesses,
shots at the local Lake where something's been seen,
pictures of Bigfoot casts.
So, in other words, the imagery for the audience is huge.
You tend to find very often with UFO lectures
it might be like two shots of the Roswell crash site,
somebody presents the documents
and there isn't really as much visual material as there is,
you know, going out to, I've done a lot of times like
Puerto Rico's El Yankee rainforest, looking for the
Chupacabra.
I've done a lot of lectures where
I've probably got 40 pictures of the places we went to
but you just don't get that with, you know,
lectures on the Roswell UFO case,
there might be a blobby in the sky and a picture of the
researcher pointed in the sky,
so, that's a big difference as well, yeah.
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But I have heard of a lot of UFO
and paranormal type connections,
and for every Bigfoot encounter was,
yeah, it scratched its butt and walked across the road.
There are things that, it vanished,
it cloaked like the predator.
I saw big flash of light.
Its eyes were glowing red,
I don't mean I shine from a flashlight,
It's eyes were glowing red at me.
I felt an immense feeling of fear, of dread,
like I was gonna die and it had glowing red eyes.
And when you start getting into things like that,
or it cloaked or it disappeared or
you start getting many things and
from people who are scared to death and seem plausible,
why would they make this up?
And then you're like, well, do I throw this encounter out?
No.
Well, some researchers do,
I don't blame them if you want the hard science
but for me, well, let's listen to these people.
No, they're all different.
I'd say they're all different,
everybody comes at it from their own way.
We had Linda Moulton Howe back in the beginning
on the first show and
we had Stanton Friedman, one of his last
speaking engagements before he passed but
yeah, it was a great group.
It's cool to have the people come through Big Bear.
I don't know, bear kind of covers the whole spectrum
and Nick Pope is, he's just, he's fascinating
to conversate with.
There's a lot of parallels in UFO world,
people, it's very post-traumatic stress,
Bigfoot isn't supposed to exist,
monsters aren't supposed to exist.
Monsters aren't supposed to be real,
but then here you're confronted with a Bigfoot,
seven, eight, nine, 10 foot tall,
built like the Incredible Hulk
and has a mean look on its face.
You're at its mercy, if it wanted to come over here and
tear you in half, it could,
and it's kind of like that with UFOs,
you're at the UFO's mercy,
it's something you don't understand,
so, you have a post-traumatic type thing.
You have a shunning of you're weird, you're out there,
oh, Bill saw a UFO once and Bill's weird
or Matt, oh,
he's the weirdo guy who is into Bigfoot, you know,
and like I said, it's all fun and games until you see one
and then you go to the coverup
and then you go to some of the more out there things
that we were discussing and there's a lot of parallels,
and then I think one thing, the UFO world,
because they're so driving for credibility
even more than the Bigfoot world
is you look at MUFON and a lot of the big organizations
and they have a very strict, rigid
way that they conduct their investigation
and that's great, time, location, temperature,
what was the traffic conditions on nearby roads?
What kind of, what was the environment?
What was the state of mind of the person?
Were they calm, were they agitated?
Did this person have a history of mental illness?
Did they appear to be intoxicated?
Are they into drugs of any kind?
What was the conditions?
Were there any other witnesses?
Is there any other historic?
They're very, very good
and I think the Bigfoot world could learn a lot from that,
from doing almost a law enforcement type investigation,
you know, just the facts.
I know it's kind of fascinating that whole disappearances
in like, in some of the national forests too
and what's that all about?
I've done a bunch of research in that and it's like
walking with somebody one second and then they're just gone,
and then sometimes stuff turns up, you know,
pieces of their luggage or their gear or whatever
miles away where there's an, you know,
the timeframe doesn't match and who knows?
Abducted, I don't know,
Bigfoot ran off with them or who knows.
One thing when you get into military witnesses
and police officers,
when you work in law enforcement, you're a trained observer.
You're meant to look at a crowd,
you're meant to pick out things,
you're meant to interpret things that
you have training and you have background
and you do it for a living.
So, when you have military and law enforcement,
there are plenty of sightings by cops
plenty of sightings by firefighters and lawyers and judges,
when you get into military and law enforcement
these are trained observers,
and when they have that,
how much more credible do you want it to be?
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
It always seems like there's some hard evidence that
changes their life forever and they're like,
I went from a non believer to a full believer in a second,
but I've always trusted it.
I always say
trust no one,
and it's healthy, very, very healthy to be suspicious.
We've all heard that line before,
trust no one from the "X-Files"
but you have to ask, what does that really mean?
Because if I have subscribed to the mainstream media
or if I subscribe to what I was taught in school growing up
and then I had this realization later on
that what I've been told is not entirely the truth
and I start discovering new information
and I get that sense of betrayal,
then I'll start looking at other sources of information
and those other sources of information may offer some truths
but those truths can be mixed in
with
falsehoods,
and let's just say mainstream media
or what you're taught in school,
let's say there's an agenda there.
If I look at say some other source
and they may be telling me some other truth
that they weren't telling me, maybe I will believe that
but if they had agendas,
how do I know this other person doesn't have an agenda?
And we have to be really, really careful.
So, I think you have to look at all aspects of a conspiracy
all aspects of evidence,
whether it's cryptozoology and Ufology
and try to be objective as you can.
It's okay to entertain all these theories
and explanations as to what the phenomenon is,
but
whether it's a conspiracy like QAnon
or whether it's a government coverup of the Roswell crash,
if you believe all conspiracies,
then none of them can be true
and so, I just think it's healthy to step back
be objective, you know, enjoy
the prospect of
discovering truth that has been hidden from us,
I think that's very fun and exciting,
but you need to be responsible and not
just shift your faith from one voice to another voice
to another person, to another source
wholeheartedly and blindly.
So, that's a very slippery negative side
to all of these topics.
Personally, I do think at some point or another
we've had contact with aliens
and I think maybe at some point or another
we've had their recovered craft or given to us technology
which is where stealth,
you look at where technology was 20 years ago
and you look at where it was 50 years ago
and you look at where it is now,
microchips and lithium batteries and all that kind of stuff
and every new plane that comes out is already,
you know, they say that we're 30 years behind
what the government and labs already have, you know
and I think that's very true,
I think they're getting it from somewhere,
I think some of it could be very well reverse engineered
you know, where did titanium come from, how do you smelt it?
How do you work with it?
Aluminum, even in the 40s and 50s
coming up was a very new thing.
Where do we work with all these different?
How do, you know, things that we've had
but how do we work with it?
To microchips, to battery technology,
to touch screen technology, to propulsion,
all these different things,
and it seems to me that it's coming from
some other place other than our own minds
and our own research.
The government either officially in some capacity
has some contact and continuing contact with alien races
or interdimensional, whatever these creatures are
and they're probably more advanced than us
and we're probably getting some kind of a trade,
either they're trading humans for abductions
or experiment purposes for technology,
who knows what kind of,
you know, deal in the dark's being made?
So, yeah, I think they definitely wanna keep it under wraps
and it kinda, you know, we're alone in the universe and
we went to the moon and we weren't asked to leave the moon
and the space program and all our modern science and
Columbus discovered America and all that,
it's all predicated on what we know in our science
and I think when you introduce aliens,
not to mention religion and God,
there's a lot of questions that come up
if you suddenly acknowledged aliens existed
and they're more advanced
and when you start getting into
a lot of alien stuff there seems to be multiple
and even hundreds, even thousands of species of alien,
some that look like insects and
some that look like big Nordic people
and some that look like the little gray aliens
and everything else and some are good for us,
some are benign, some are evil, you know, if you wanna,
some don't have our best interest in mind, so,
I think it's a big can of worms for the government.
Yeah, so for 10 to 13 years,
I was a director of investigations from Eufaula, Los Angeles
where my job was essentially to go out and investigate UFOs
and in that time,
I'm sure I investigate over 300 cases,
you know, obviously a lot of them I was able to
kind of, debunk right off the bat, you know,
but there's enough there
that was really compelling,
including we had a case in Pine Mountain
which is about an hour and a half
from Los Angeles to two hours.
It's community
and we had a case where an object was seen
flying above someone's house by
different witnesses in different houses
on two consecutive nights.
They claim it landed in the forest and they saw occupants,
and if it wasn't for the quality of witnesses,
I'd be a little skeptical because we're talking
a pretty far out story, right, we're talking about occupants
but this just came from a former correctional officer,
and like I said, the collaborator
was the neighbor that saw it and independently,
and not only that, but we walked to the forest
and found the spot where supposedly it landed
and it was this big round circular
mark in the middle of this field that,
you know, was hard to dismiss
considering the stories we just heard.
So, normally a sighting would come in, somebody would either
they would fill out as a database from me
from people would fill it out
and then that gets funneled into like different sections
around the country where there's different chapters, right,
and Los Angeles probably gets the most amount of sightings
just because it's a big, you know
it's a community and stuff.
And so, that comes, so I get emails,
obviously get emails about sightings
and it was my job to either assign someone
to do it which really there was anybody else besides me,
you know, occasionally people would come in
for a month or two and then they would quit.
And then it was my job to follow up and
usually, you know,
most people kind of just make a phone call
and then, you know, fill out the data base and all that but
I have a little more interest in it,
so I was always trying to go meet with someone.
So, then you go to the spot,
you try to go the same time when they've had their sighting
around the same type of conditions
just in case if it's something mundane,
a lot of times you can see it rather, you're like,
oh, look, it was a blimp 'cause it comes around that time
and then you kind of, you know, depending what the case is,
you kind of go from there.
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I was looking this morning hoping to find something.
- And is it harder to find? - It's definitely
harder to find good footage of Bigfoot than it is of UFOs.
When it comes to the UFO stuff,
when you get into cattle mutilations
and you get into places like the Skin Walker Ranch
where they had UFO sightings, there are certain places,
if you follow my channel really deep in there,
I call places of high strangeness.
There are places like Yosemite National Park
which is a missing 411, missing person capital of the world.
Hundreds of people in the last
30 or 40 years have gone missing in Yosemite National Park.
Lots and lots of missing people.
I think in 2017, there was
10 or 12 people that they never found,
and I don't mean tripped and fell or fell down a mountain,
I mean, just stories of kids,
kids to elderly people where they're 15, 20 feet
and they go around a rock or around a corner
and then they're never seen again
and found days later in weird circumstances.
In these areas, we'll have UFO sighting,
strange lights in the skies
and then we'll also have Bigfoot encounters too.
It seems like they just get this paranormal,
you know, to me, it's like Bigfoot is 99%
well, it's probably 80% human, 19% ape,
and then 1% something we don't know.
Something like if the paranormal is a pool
it's got it's big toe,
it's kicking its toes in the paranormal pool.
It's not a paranormal entity,
it's not like a ghost or something like that or a demon
but it definitely has that side to them.
So, there are all sorts of different theories that
I've heard out there,
that Bigfoots are spies for different alien species.
I've heard encounters from people who've had habituation
with Bigfoot families,
who where their family lived on a property
for many, many years
and there are Bigfoots that live in the areas
and they would trade with them or talk with them
and even some people communicate with them,
learn part of their language,
it's out there, stories I've heard though,
I can neither confirm nor deny.
Talk that when Bigfoots get to a certain age
they go with the star people and then they come back,
I've heard stories like that.
And then there's other stories of people,
you know, a couple of guys out in the country
drinking beer on their tailgate
and the UFO lands and Bigfoots get out.
[mellow music]
One of the most exciting aspects of
similarities between Ufology and cryptozoology
are associated events.
Cattle mutilation.
Often you see orbs, people have witnessed lights in the sky,
UFOs associated with cattle mutilations, crop circles
and Bigfoot sightings as well, encrypted events.
So, what does that mean?
If Bigfoot
is nothing more than another ape family member
in the hominid branch that has yet to be discovered,
our cousin, you know, out there,
I've a lot of good explanations as to why we haven't
caught them on camera,
[mellow music]
but at some point you would think
why haven't we gotten enough evidence
with hair sampling and DNA testing,
to just outright prove that there's a brand new species?
I know there are some good evidence out there.
But ultimately, with all the,
the cameras,
[mellow music]
no one has caught a Bigfoot really
except for the Patterson film.
So, what is Bigfoot doing
that
keeps them so elusive?
Of course we have tracks and that sort of thing.
I think there might be something else going on here and
I know
it's, you know getting a little bit out there
but
the more and more I think about it,
I feel like
the idea that
extra terrestrials, as people suspect them to be
are simply these physical nuts and bolts beings
that are coming here
or that Bigfoot is a physical being
just living in the woods
may not be entirely true.
It seems to me that Bigfoot
has the ability to slip in and out of detection
far too easily for some mammal
that's just yet to be caught on film
and with extra terrestrials,
they too seem to have a will over
physics or reality as we understand it
and can manipulate
the world that we see with our five senses
and slip in and out
of that view as well,
and because those two things are happening
and we see events where they overlap,
maybe just, maybe,
these are beings that are beyond just biological.
Here's the problem a lot of people have with that
and here's the problem a lot of people have
and I seem to be defending those people
who believe these things are real without question now,
and I'm not really doing that,
but here here's something I will say,
I guess in their defense.
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We are curious by nature.
What we have to be careful is
that we don't automatically assume we know the answers
and project that answer on the research.
If someone comes knocking at my door
at two o'clock in the morning,
immediately, I think, oh, oh, something's wrong
or that could be somebody trying to rob me.
That's a different supposition than,
oh, I just saw something walk by my window,
oh, that could have been a ghost or a Bigfoot.
That's an immediate conclusion that you've projected.
The proper way to handle that is
well, I wonder what that was or I wonder who it was?
So, you turn on your lights,
maybe you go to another window and investigate
and if you never figure out what or who it was,
you don't immediately project
an answer without any evidence
and that's what a lot of people do.
On the flip side of that, that gets people in trouble
and that's what makes this group of people so anti
or are drastically opposed to the investigation and pursuit
in the first place.
They look at those people who are very
misdirected and have good intentions
but are very misdirected,
and they say, well, that's the standard of reference
for people who believe in mysterious things
or wanna go out in pursuit and search of the unknown,
while in reality, that's not, that's not true.
Those people who just automatically assume that,
you know, this is all bonkers,
it's good to be a skeptic but it's not good to be a cynic.
Don't be cynical, just be skeptical,
that's why I liked Joe Nickell, people hate that guy.
He has PhD, I believe in English,
from the University of Kentucky
and works for an organization that
pretty much goes out and debunks things.
I respect Joe Nickell because he applied,
he doesn't make fun of anybody, he applies
that scientific inquiry and integrity to the question
and he really wants to know the answer to the question
but he's not gonna immediately assume
that it was Bigfoot, an alien, Loch Ness,
Nessie from Loch Ness or ghost or a demon,
he doesn't jump to those conclusions.
There are other people, however, who are so close minded
they don't even want to investigate,
Joe will investigate,
because it requires them to reorganize their worldview.
See we all have a worldview
and if we were to find out, if we were to have
an experience, if we were to go hiking through the woods
and come upon one of these creatures, if they exist
and it's incontrovertible proof to us
and we are looking eye to eye at this creature
and we live to tell about it,
we have to then reorganize our entire world view.
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And just it's off, it's fascinating,
I mean, Bigfoot's a given,
all you gotta do is find one.
I just don't know if we're gonna do it on Bigfoot hunters.
Eventually though, eventually,
we'll all wake up, I would think.
If you look at it from more of a scientific hard fact,
if you accept the possibility of alien life,
if you then wanna make the leap to people are seeing UFOs
and UFO means on unidentified flying object,
it just doesn't necessarily mean alien,
it just means we don't know what it is.
And if you take the other leap
and wanna go into the, I believe aliens visit the earth,
I believe, you know, the crash at Roswell and
the government cover up
and you believe that, you know, on occasion
you know, these alien species wanna,
do abducted people for whatever reason, nefarious or good,
they wanna do experiments on us, they wanna collect our DNA,
they wanna study us, just like amazingly,
oh, why would aliens wanna take people and study them?
What do we do when we go study species
as humans, as biologists?
We tranquilize them, we tag them, we radio collar them,
we take their height, we take their weight,
we check their teeth, we check their claws,
and then we release them back in the wild,
we do it every day with bears
and mountain lions and coyotes and badgers
and gorillas and chimpanzees and crocodiles
and everything else.
So, it would make sense to me if I was an alien life form
and I wanted to study earth for whatever reason
and I was abducting people,
what are these very large hairy people
that hide out in the woods?
Maybe I'm gonna abduct them too.
Maybe they are genetically
manipulated by an ancient civilization,
that's a theory about them.
Maybe they're genetically manipulated by aliens.
Maybe some ancient civilization, tens of thousands,
20, 30,000 years ago had some advanced technology.
Maybe we're not the only ones that ever had
what we call technology.
Maybe they had influences from aliens.
There's all sorts of theories
on where their creation could be,
some of their more paranormal abilities.
Some of the sightings of people
like there's been a lot of reports,
I've talked to people from military bases
who worked on military bases as MPS and stuff
and they would see UFOs sightings all the time
and it was always don't ask, don't tell,
you didn't see anything,
but they also had a lot of Bigfoot encounters too.
Bigfoots coming up to the fence
and the lights would flicker for a second
and a Bigfoot's on the inside of the fence,
strange stuff, you know, and
the guards on the perimeter are like yep, we see Bigfoots,
yep, we see UFOs, like, it's a weird ass world out there.
You know, and these are soldiers, these are people,
they don't have anything to gain
and actually most, a lot of people wanna remain anonymous
'cause you have everything to lose
by talking about Bigfoot.
So, there's definitely a connection there, what it is?
No one can definitively say,
if I ever get abducted by aliens, I'm gonna ask them
you know, hey, before you guys do your thing,
what's the deal with Bigfoot,
is that you guys or is that another tribe of aliens,
or species of aliens is, what's going on with that?
And see, we have as humans
always been at the top of the food chain, you know,
we're supposed to be the smartest species,
I question that every day,
but if you come face to face with a bipedal creature
that stands about eight or nine feet tall
and is smart enough to have evaded detection and capture
and live in the areas and the environments
that they live in just fine,
then we have to reorganize our worldview.
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A certain portion of the UFO community which is,
it's a growing portion too, it's pretty big,
think that Space Force was specifically announced
because of the alien presence and UFOs, you know,
and that, you know, the White House,
Trump and Pence and all that are in on the secret
and they're secretly fighting aliens
on the moon or whatever.
Starting right here and right now,
because this moment is your moment, it belongs to you.
[audience cheering]
I don't buy that at all, personally,
and I'm okay with the Space Force thing,
you know, I'm not a fan of thinking military first
in terms of space exploration versus scientific exploration
so, that bothers me a little bit, but I'm okay with it but
it's just that's not how any of this works.
Now, you know, whether you like Trump or not
but regardless I don't care,
but that's not,
president isn't gonna be in the know,
no other guys from the outside of the,
if anybody knows, it's someone that's involved
in the military industrial complex, you know,
and that would be, maybe Bush would be the last
the father of Bush would be the last guy maybe,
that would be in the know.
I don't think necessarily presidents know the whole story
and certainly they're not gonna create a whole Space Force
just to fight aliens,
I mean, that sounds like fantasy to me, you know?
Yeah, I think of all the presidents, the older Bush
has really talked about UFOs, if ever,
but I think it makes sense in terms of he was CIA guy.
Those guys, you know,
aren't gonna talk, they're in it for life, you know
and if anybody out of the presidents
from baby Bush to Clinton to Trump is gonna know anything,
he would be the guy,
but it would be the last guy I would expect
to actually talk about it.
I think it's so compartmentalized
and it's such need to know basis,
that's so few people know the whole story
and I don't think any of the presidents,
certainly not the vice presidents or, you know.
And it's become very popular now, right,
for someone that's running for president
and they're like, well, I'm gonna disclose,
I'm gonna look into the alien thing.
I see these articles are
disposed on Facebook almost daily now,
it's just not the way it works.
[mellow music]
With Jimmy Carter reporting, some years later,
he didn't immediately do it,
but several years later when he reported the UFO
it went into the annals of history.
It is now a documented UFO reporting.
Again, that is a scientific term.
If I were to walk outside my front door
and see a bright red, glowing object in the sky
that I couldn't identify as a plane or the Goodyear blimp
which I don't understand,
I don't think it would ever glow and be orange.
If I have no evidence to the contrary,
then I'm just going to say there was an unidentified object
flying in the sky above my home.
That's a scientific explanation of the unknown.
It's, you know at that moment that it was A, flying
and it was B, unidentified
and you can identify, say the location,
that's the best you can do,
those are all very accurate statements.
So, what Jimmy Carter did,
he brought an air of credibility to the reporting
but Jimmy Carter was and still is at 96 years old,
a very credible individual.
I surmise, he lost the presidency in 1980 to Ronald Reagan
because he was just too honest
and that's what we've got to have,
that is one thing we've got to look for
when we do research into the unknown.
And we try to,
we try to resolve these issues and solve mysteries.
You have to look for the more credible,
the more reliable resources and reports you have to,
and that's why it's so important
to know the people reporting these phenomenon.
The other major difference between
Ufology and cryptozoology is the evidence.
Cryptozoology doesn't have nearly as much
supportive evidence compared to Ufology,
and I know that ruffle some feathers.
Yes, there are
footprints, yes, we have some sampling, yes,
we have
some video, not really the best in general
but Ufology has a rich history
all the way back to the 1947, Nathan Twining memo,
Lieutenant General Nathan Twining,
openly in his report
speculating that craft witnessed by pilots and
military personnel
could possibly be something that's off world,
and there's a rich history all the way through
and numerous public and secretive projects
regarding the investigation of UFOs,
and that leads all the way through Project Blue Book
up until the AT program,
and so, you combine that with the number
of eye witnesses who are pilots and military personnel
that have come forward over the years.
Colonel Phillip Corso, I mean, controversial as he may be,
you know, there's a rich history there,
people saying, look, I've worked behind the scenes
and this is what happened, this is what I saw.
And so, when the government is spending
so much time, energy and resource and money
into investigating UFOs,
there must be something there.
Whereas with cryptozoology, you just don't have that.
I guess if the government thought that
cryptids were more of a
national security
threat, then they would maybe investigate those things,
I don't know.
You know,
we had psychic programs only because,
you know, for remote viewing only because the Russians
were doing this, so,
would we have ever looked into
using psychics to remote view
unless the Russians were doing it?
So, that's a national security issue right there.
So, that's the only reason I could think
that maybe the government would investigate,
I think that the problem is so many cryptids
get mixed and there's a crossover
effect between
pure imagination of,
you know, creatures from our mythologies
to actual creatures that have been eye witnessed
or blurrly caught on camera.
So, there's just,
I support actually,
spending more time and energy and money
into investing cryptids
and I think that there's a lot more that can be done
and I think that in Ufology,
there's just been way more collective resource
put into the investigation from civilians
and the government and institutions and academia in general,
there's just not nearly as much effort
investigating cryptozoology.
So, that's a whole nother door
that I think that should be opened.
Well, in terms of
my favorite evidence for UFO sightings is
probably my own sighting which I had as a kid.
It was, I was about, I was age 10,
yeah, I live right here in Los Angeles
and we're hanging out by the pool with my mom
and I believe it was a hairdresser
was there at the time, you know?
So, hang out by the pool, probably maybe eating something
and getting some drinks, it was pretty late,
well, I wasn't drinking alcohol 'cause I was 10, but,
and then all of a sudden we saw this big light
that kind of came down and hovered above us,
about 30 feet above our heads above the pool,
completely silent about, you know 30 foot across,
about 30 foot up in the air, so, it's about 30 by 30
and it say they're selling a nanny kind of
either Blake tough or took off,
now however saw it.
So, after seeing something like that even at age 10 and,
you know, as you get older,
you kind of go back and you're like,
well, maybe I misunderstood what I saw was helicopter,
whatever, but, you know, I still ask my mom once in a while
and to me, I just can't deny what I saw
so, from that standpoint, that's by far the most believable
you know, UFO
event.
Otherwise, I mean, you look through history, there's that,
there's a lot of, anything that has to do with like
fighter pilots or airline pilots that see UFOs
are obviously very believable
because they're trained observer.
I even interviewed a pilot that was an Air France pilot
and he was a 747 at the time, pilot,
and he told me that he used to see UFO's
pretty regularly in cross Atlantic flights
and he's like, I'm gonna be honest with you, he's like
a lot of us have seen them.
He showed me a map, in fact,
of where all sightings took place
from like various pilots that he interviewed,
and it was like, it was filled.
It was filled, he had all these dots everywhere
and he's like, we all see them,
we all know they're there, but,
you know, we don't wanna lose our jobs
and we don't talk about it.
So, that kind of evidence, obviously, extremely compelling.
And I was reading this article from a science website,
a credible science website, where they've recently found
evidence that there could possibly
be a life sustaining planet or planets in other systems
that were kind of to a point now
where we're almost ready to accept
that that is a distinct possibility.
So, if that's a distinct possibility
and we've done really well in this, on this planet,
there certainly the possibility
that life is developed quicker and more intelligently
and more technologically advanced in other systems
who are trying to contact us.
I have never seen any evidence of that
but I keep a very open mind.
That doesn't really scare me.
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So, most people will tell you that with UFO sightings
it's pretty random, but I don't believe that's the case.
Now, granted a lot of them are pretty random,
'cause it occurs all over the world, right?
But there's definitely specific areas around the world
that have a long history of sightings
and they're still occurring, there's Kazakhstan
for whatever reason, hot in the middle of nowhere,
there's a lot of sightings, Siberia.
and the United States, you have the St. Louis Mountains,
St. Louis Valley, I'm sorry, which is in Southern Colorado
has had sightings for generations and
until, and still today you have a plethora of sightings,
you have cattle mutilations, a lot of related phenomena
in a very, in a smaller geographical area
and I think that we don't spend enough time
going to those spots that have a long history of sightings.
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So, you get to a point where your research with Bigfoot
where you've read the books, you watched the documentaries
and you're like, I want more,
and then you start looking in the UFO world,
you start looking in, not just Bigfoot
but the bigger cryptozoological umbrella,
and you start realizing all across the United States,
I mean, my primary research is in the United States
but all over the world, you're like,
parts of the United States they're seeing a goat man,
parts of the United States like in Loveland, Ohio,
they're seeing a giant frogman.
So, yeah, I think you get to a certain level
with your Bigfoot research
where you almost have to start looking
at the bigger cryptozoological umbrella,
you have to start looking at the paranormal side of it,
what are ghost hunters experiencing?
What are they doing?
What are the UFO people doing?
How do they conduct their investigations?
What do they do with witnesses?
What problems do they have?
And you realize you're all kind of,
it's different subjects but you have all the same issues.
What I enjoy most
about both cryptozoology and Ufology
honestly is the comradery.
The people in those communities,
I just so enjoy having conversations with them
and working together with them.
There's a lot of
support
and,
and I think that might
come from the fact that
often people, I think, see those of us who are interested
in these fields as a little off
maybe [laughs]
like we have dis-associative disorders or something,
or that were sad and uneducated
and that's really unfair.
In fact, there's a lot of very smart people
that are investigating these things and
we have a sense of humor about this stuff too.
You know, we get it,
that we're discussing things that are like
just totally out there,
but that's okay,
that's part of the fun of it as well.
And I think that, you know, because you can be
judged harshly for having these sort of interests
that in a way, it almost brings you together and
it causes you to have some sort of
empathy for each other,
a connection, that sense of belonging to a tribe as it were,
and that, you know,
that we will be there to support and defend each other.
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You know, a lot of people talk about disclosure
but they're waiting on this, almost like on this Messiah
to give you disclosure and it's not gonna happen,
you know, obviously, I mean, every year
it's like, this is gonna be the year.
I think we should be focusing a lot more
on being proactive and heading those areas
that a lot of people are going to, you know
instead of reacting, be proactive, which is
in a sense, the same way we do Bigfoot research,
try to be proactive, go and get the evidence and found,
you know, Bigfoot ourselves,
and I think whatever strange phenomena
and modalities you're dealing with,
I think that should be the approach.
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Are they meat eaters?
I would think, right.
And what?
Hunt a bear,
go tackle a bear,
cook him up, I don't know.
If I was a Bigfoot Hunter
the first thing I would be going after is,
well, what is this?
Let's do some, let's spend some real quality time
researching what we think this thing eats and
go where the food is, follow the money.
Like Bigfoot, so, when you go research Bigfoot on a field,
now occasionally it'll be just like a UFO sighting,
where you'll get a sightings report somewhere in an area
and you can follow up on it,
but a lot of times, a lot more remote than a UFO sighting
so, it's very hard to get out there in time
and it cost money and time and all that.
They crossover between cryptids
and extra terrestrials,
UFO's,
is that there's this meeting of the tangible and intangible.
and I love that nexus where both of those worlds meet.
Our understanding of time space is expanding,
our understanding of the very structure
of the nature of reality is
almost getting looser and more interesting,
it's expanding as well,
and that means there are just
perhaps, infinite possibilities
and so, if we imagine something to be real,
if we imagine
that we can traverse the cosmos
and be at another part of the galaxy
within just a few minutes,
if we can imagine that consciousness exists
everywhere almost simultaneously,
if science teases that all of these things are possible,
that there are multiple dimensions,
then of course why couldn't there be cryptids
walking side by side living right amongst us
and we have no clue,
that to me is fun.
It's just fun, I know it sounds kind of ridiculous,
but it's fun.
That makes life really interesting
and I don't need it to make
life interesting for me to be happy or to be content,
but it's like science, right?
Reading the latest news and science
then latest discovery, to me that's fun, I love it.
So, that nexus where all those worlds meet
is probably the most exciting thing about
cryptozoology and Ufology.
There's too many eye witnesses and it's,
you know, they're hard to take a picture of because
they're, you know, shy of people.
I was just watching something this morning
where they took a print of a,
we got a baby Bigfoot and like pour the mold and everything
and they're talking about how the toes were
spread out different than our toes are,
pushed in because we wear shoes all the time
and they're like, this is the evidence of that
and that was pretty interesting.
But ultimately I think that
both fields encourage us to say, yes,
take a look behind the veil and see what's there.
That's exciting, there's a buzz there
and living in that mystery,
I think gives one a sense of
connection to something bigger than themselves
and because these fields are
for the most part non-dogmatic,
meaning unlike a religion or something right,
there are not
a set of rules that someone says, you must abide by this,
you must believe this.
You can have that spiritual search
through these mysteries without anybody saying
your spiritual belief or your
sense of wonder or your curiosity
is inherently
evil or wrong or bad.
I find it really freeing and
you know, even if we find out something is not true,
that's okay.
I'm glad that we went on this journey together,
I'm glad to be a part of the community
and the people out there who do this.
For me, ultimately, it's all about
peace and love and harmony
and compassion and empathy and caring about each other,
and the paranormal world is a playground that says
you don't have to have
all of these boundaries
that institutions or governments or your local culture
or societies or history has said that you have to abide by.
It's like in "The Big Lebowski",
when the dude says the do to bides.
He's not abiding by the rule of society, right,
he's abiding by something bigger
and it means not taking everything
so damn seriously all the time
that sometimes you've just gotta let go,
go with the flow and enjoy
and for me, that's what the paranormal is.
It's really just letting go and enjoying
what discoveries or stories I might find along the way.
Gosh, I would think it's always been around.
It goes back to the,
there was a fascinating thing with the Cherokee Indians
and that they would put like grains or something
at the edge of their camp and to feed them
and they would come up and take them
and go back into the woods
and it was like their peace offering
and they would protect them.
There's no, I mean,
Indian and there was no reason to doubt any of that,
you know, and they probably are more able to see them
because they're less fearful of them than the standard human
especially like a Bigfoot hunter, get out of here.
I mean, you know [laughs]
good luck seeing one or you bring bringing your gun too,
they're like, no way
I can smell the gunpowder, I'm outta here,
I'm not gonna get shot, but I it's, I don't know.
Yeah, and why don't, why haven't?
Maybe there has been one in captive.
There's no reason to think there wouldn't be but
I wouldn't think he'd be that happy about it.
And I don't know, is there a female?
There's gotta be female Bigfoot too, right [laughs]?
So, the UFO world's a much bigger paradigm
and you know, if you think about it,
a UFO sighting can occur anywhere in the world
and there's a lot more interest and people report those
a lot more versus the Bigfoot phenomena,
you have to have very specific geographical area
for that to be seen and live.
So, I think from that standpoint
you're naturally gonna have a lot more interest
and a lot of more people talking about UFO's and aliens
and I think people are naturally more interested
in the whole UFO thing, 'cause it's about
it's about the future,
it's about going out in space
and what's out there and a bigger picture, you know.
Bigfoot doesn't seem quite as big story
from that standpoint so, I think there's much less interest
in Bigfoot than there is, you know, in UFO and aliens.
They are a community.
They may be a diverse community, there may be some,
let's not kid ourselves that there aren't some
fairly crazy people involved in cryptozoology
and in Ufology,
let's not kid ourselves that there aren't some
charlatans and fraudsters in both these communities,
but essentially, most of the people involved,
whether they're witnesses or whether they're researchers are
sincere, dedicated individuals
who are intrigued by a mystery
and wanna push the boundaries of human knowledge
and rightly so,
and that's what being human and being intelligent
should be about, pushing those boundaries,
asking those questions, trying to expand
the sum of all human knowledge
and if that takes us into some difficult and
uncomfortable territory as well, you know
that's how we maybe make big advances through adversity.
You know, investigating the paranormal,
it's like the light on the hill
that you're sort of looking out to.
It's not necessarily that that light is the answer,
although maybe you will find
the answer to the big questions
and I love asking the big questions,
but it's the journey,
And so, going towards the light, meaning
what is out there?
What is in the distance?
What's behind the veil that we don't quite see?
But we, if we keep going that way,
we'll get answers along the way.
That's exciting because
hopefully, we do learn about ourselves
and I think we do.
I think we become more accepting
and loving and tolerant people
and forget tolerance, accepting people because
we're entering this weird world where
anything seems to be possible
and I think that if you're going in with that mindset,
then for the most part, there are exceptions to this rule,
your brain is more elastic.
You're able to adapt to new ideas to keep an open mind
and that is the core
of the Ufological and cryptozoological community.
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